Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby leokin » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:36 am

I installed KXStudio per instructions at top of this page today over my Linu Mint 17.
Now I have no sound in you Tube.
The video plays...but no sound.
This happened right after running Ardour3. I shut down Jack, same problem still no youtube sound.

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby falkTX » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:38 am

You should not stop jack, let it run in the background.
In KXStudio all sound goes through jack by default.

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby leokin » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:48 am

At first I didn't stop jack after closing Ardour (Ardour played sound).

Then when I discovered no web sound (YouTube in this case), that's when I shut down Jack
to see if that would give me back the sound. But, still no sound.

However, I then rebooted Mint/KXS. And I then had web sounds.

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby varpa » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:18 pm

I think you need to have the alsa->jack bridge running to get Youtube sound. This is enabled in cadence.

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby leokin » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:49 pm

Thanx for the quick reply!
I think I'm getting better at the feel of the KXS setup...I have been comparing how to use it in various distros (all 64 bit)....e.g., Ubuntu Studio 12.04.5 LTS; Ubuntu 14.04 LTS; and now also Linux Mint 17.

I tend to forget the basics as I deal with these different distro's LOL.

So...in Mint, after installing the KXS repo's as I stated, I this time just left the Jack setup in it's default state and all seems to work just fine!

Sometimes I need to change the Jack setup so I can plugin my AudioBox USB interface for my guitar, and I think...but not sure...that's when I need to rebbot after my guitar session so I can then watch YouTube.

I'll fiddle with it some more and report back. ~Leo

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby leokin » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:25 am

If I just let Jack run in the background, you're right, I get sounds. Now my problem is...

1) Running Ardour, or even YTube, I get crackling sounds, more so in Youtube.
2) In both cases, I get sound only thru my left front (5.1 system) speaker.
3) I get lots of xruns in Ardour.

I don't experience either problem in Ubu Studio; I used identical sound source files in both, and here are screen shots for clarity...

Mint 17 /KXS https://www.dropbox.com/s/dprh59yo1s5o4 ... 7.png?dl=0

Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS https://www.dropbox.com/s/8njig7qhbt4nz ... M.png?dl=0

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Re: [SOLVED] Step by Step KXStudio upgrade ...

Postby leokin » Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:10 pm

leokin wrote:If I just let Jack run in the background, you're right, I get sounds. Now my problem is...

1) Running Ardour, or even YTube, I get crackling sounds, more so in Youtube.
2) In both cases, I get sound only thru my left front (5.1 system) speaker.
3) I get lots of xruns in Ardour.

I don't experience either problem in Ubu Studio; I used identical sound source files in both, and here are screen shots for clarity...

Mint 17 /KXS https://www.dropbox.com/s/dprh59yo1s5o4 ... 7.png?dl=0

Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS https://www.dropbox.com/s/8njig7qhbt4nz ... M.png?dl=0


I'm not sure of what details have happened, but I just wiped and did a fresh install of Mint 17; then I refollowed the instructions in
this thread. Now I have sounds in both YTube and Ardour. I notice, however, that the sound applet Mint no longer works (areas are greyed out) and doesn't display the sound card details anymore.

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby falkTX » Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:14 pm

that sound applet probably uses pulseaudio, which is now working as slave mode to jack.
you need a proper sound mixer/applet/tool that does ALSA-based mixing, not just pulseaudio.
kmix and volti are usually good choices.

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby leokin » Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:18 pm

falkTX wrote:that sound applet probably uses pulseaudio, which is now working as slave mode to jack.
you need a proper sound mixer/applet/tool that does ALSA-based mixing, not just pulseaudio.
kmix and volti are usually good choices.


Thanx!! I'll check them out.

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby leokin » Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:28 pm

By the way...now that I have KXS installed into Mint...should I best migrate towards future programs to be Debian based, Ubuntu based, and/or KXS repositories???
I still never am sure of the best thing to do in that respect, and I need to somehow read up something that best explains what works best in which distro (i have 3 hard drives with 3 different distros, all 64 bit:
this one, with Mint/KXS...another with dual boot---Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS and low latency kernel---and Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS.

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby falkTX » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:20 pm

just stick with whatever works best for you.
the repositories should work on any debian based system.

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby leokin » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:11 am

How do I know if my OS ( in this case mint 17 Cinammon) is Debian or Ubuntu based?

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby falkTX » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:43 am

Mint is always Ubuntu based unless stated otherwise like in the "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE for short).

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby xtianstar12 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:48 am

I did everything in the Instructions, and finally was able to get sound through my Audio Interface out of Ableton Live.

Then I updated my system, and boom it started crackling. I think that Jackd2 is not working properly. I am no expert, I am still learning about running audio programs through Linux. I am currently on Linux Mint 17.3..

I am just going to do a reinstall of Linux Mint, and not update those components.

Any of you have had this problem with Jackd2?

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Re: Step by Step KXStudio upgrade Mint/Ubuntu/Debian/etc.

Postby i2productions » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:53 pm

I've been on Mint 17 cinnamon since the day it came out. I've upgraded all the way to current 17.3 build and still going strong. I would guess it's not jackd2. My experience is, it either works or it doesn't, there isn't much in between. You could try going in Cadence and if you're set to 3 period/buffer, change down to 2 and see what happens (make sure to restart jack). Also check your buffer size. Set it to 1024, and see if it makes a difference (again, don't forget to restart jack.) Otherwise, with the available info, I'm not sure. Also not sure why you'd come to linux to use Abelton, but I won't judge. I've found Reason works better with Ardour than through ReWire with any DAW on windows!


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